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Post by mike on Nov 13, 2007 16:17:59 GMT
the staff list of the boards should be reviewed, there are moderators who are no longer actively involved in the club.
Also, having had another message disappear i think deletion of posts should be restricted to moderators, those moderators should be chosen by the committee and they should be accountable for any decisions made.
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Post by Keith on Nov 13, 2007 16:54:56 GMT
I'll have to look into this more, but I couldn't find how the committee group is setup or where it's specified in the admin panel as to who can delete/modify posts that aren't their own.
I suppose it makes sense to remove moderation from all committee members and only allow the committee member who is responsible for each aspect of the club to moderate that respective section of the board. I won't do this of course unless it is agreed by the committee.
If someone deletes their own thread then I have no problem. They are not breaking any rules even if doing so means deleting other peoples posts. Its only when specific posts disappear that things need to change.
FYI, all moderators/committee members are in fact active in one form or another. I personally cleaned the list of such people up this semester and these were left on as they were seen fit to continue to have this status on the board.
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Post by mike on Nov 13, 2007 19:55:41 GMT
one of the moderators hasn't posted since the 8th of january and another hasn't posted since february 2006. Normally I would expect a moderator of a forum to be somewhat active.
Re deleting active threads, I think this should not be allowed if there are posts by other people unless the thread breaks rules and only then if it is deleted by a moderator. Tony posted something about a Deuter bag in the review section. I replied with a comment about my deuter bag which was an earlier version of his and then recommended bags by deuter and a couple of hours later my post disappeared. Whatever the reason for it disappearing, it is very frustrating when I go to the trouble of writing something only for it to disappear a few hours later.
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Post by maeve on Nov 13, 2007 22:33:12 GMT
Sorry Keith but i think you should have a problem if someone deletes their thread ESPECIALLY if doing so means deleting other peoples posts. This totally ruins the morale of the board. Is an open forum or not? ?
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Post by yellowwellies on Nov 14, 2007 0:52:23 GMT
Can't we all just get along , it seems to me that some people who are supposed to be mature are acting quite like children...
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Post by He who shall not be named on Nov 14, 2007 9:39:15 GMT
Mike I didn't realize that to have your opinion be considered an asset to the club you had to come online here and bitch. So some people aren't active anymore, but in the time they were they showed that they deserve a higher status. Other people we felt didn't deserve this, hence they aren't moderators. Plus I can safely say that they more than likely are not responsible for the deletion of any recent posts.
Maeve, this is a free and open board. That means that the person who creates a thread ultimately "owns" it. There is no way to turn off the ability to delete your own threads even if I wanted to do it. If you're not happy with this then start your own thread for each of your posts. Obviously the author of the threads that you had posts deleted from didn't think you're posts were anything special. Also on a note of things being open...any particular reason why you re-registered with a new username lately?
There are somethings that shouldn't be said on a message board because lets face it, it's really really sad. If you want your opinion heard then show up to the wall regularly and interact with members in person where you can discuss issues.
This board is more for information that debating.
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Post by maeve on Nov 14, 2007 11:24:23 GMT
Sorry Tony but if someone creates a thread they are inviting the members of the board to ask questions, give advice and criticism if they feel necessary. If your not willing to hear others opinions and can't handle what might seem to some like unfair comments then you shouldn't start a thread. I can't speak for Mike but i don't want to be a moderator. I don't come on the board and give my opinions in the hope that i will be made one. I think Mike (and I) however have every right to bitch if ours are the only posts being deleted. I hope I'm not taking you up wrong here Áine but i don't think I'M being immature for wanting to voice my thoughts freely. Sorry again Tony but maybe you "didn't think (my) posts were anything special" but Paul already apologized for deleting the Killarney thread. He felt the comments were unfair to the club but we discussed that like the adults we are, apologizes were exchanged and i felt the issue was resolved. Obviously not if mike's posts are still going missing. Some people are unable to show up to the wall regularly, like me. But because i still have a strong interest in the club i discuss these issues the only place i can: here on the forum. What will happen when we don't have the wall anymore? Will nobody discuss anything? I re-registered with a new name as i was having problems uploading my profile picture AND i was checking if only committee members can start threads in 'Club Events and Activities' rather than everyone as it used to be. Any reason why this is? What if someone who isn't a moderator is planning on climbing or hiking some weekend and wants to ask if anyone wants to join them? Where should they put their post? And finally i can see what you mean when you say that the board is "more for information than debating" but that doesn't mean discussions should be TOTALLY forbidden!!!!
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Post by Keith on Nov 14, 2007 11:47:41 GMT
Firstly, that was me logged in earlier not Tony.
Certain threads are started to provide information. Fact filled information. Certain people can quickly turn this simple post on the upcoming weekend into a debate that is unnecessary. If you feel how you did in that last post why not start a thread called "The incompetence of the current committee" and belt away there. I won't delete it. If you really do want to be unfiltered there's a whole unmoderated "Banter Board" provided for you.
You're adding in words in quotes that I just didn't say. Its very assuming of you to do so. Incorrect also. So please don't or the post might disappear.
Oh He who shall not be named if we don't have the wall we can't have a committee or weekend trips. We won't be able to meet in the canteen or chat to each other casually. We will have to all sit at home with web cams for meetings.
As for the "Club Events and Activities" section, why would somebody outside the committee be advertising a CLUB event or activity.
To be honest I'm not going to debate this anymore right here because I just think its stupid and I personally have better things to be doing. So this is my last post in this thread.
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Post by conormccarti on Nov 14, 2007 17:05:37 GMT
there are two terms that come to mind when i read this... 1)S**t stirring 2) Way too much time on your hands ;D
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Post by mike on Nov 14, 2007 17:11:59 GMT
Mike I didn't realize that to have your opinion be considered an asset to the club you had to come online here and bitch. So some people aren't active anymore, but in the time they were they showed that they deserve a higher status. Other people we felt didn't deserve this, hence they aren't moderators. Plus I can safely say that they more than likely are not responsible for the deletion of any recent posts. Maeve, this is a free and open board. That means that the person who creates a thread ultimately "owns" it. There is no way to turn off the ability to delete your own threads even if I wanted to do it. If you're not happy with this then start your own thread for each of your posts. Obviously the author of the threads that you had posts deleted from didn't think you're posts were anything special. Also on a note of things being open...any particular reason why you re-registered with a new username lately? There are somethings that shouldn't be said on a message board because lets face it, it's really really sad. If you want your opinion heard then show up to the wall regularly and interact with members in person where you can discuss issues. This board is more for information that debating. So you're saying that becoming a moderator here is a reward for hard work and a recognition of higher status within the club??? I'm sorry but when did this idea of a two tier club come about. What other privileges do these upper class members enjoy? I don't suppose there is a gold lined bathroom somewhere behind the climbing wall is there? As for moderator status being some kind of a reward, that makes no sense. Moderators are supposed to moderate the message board, if you rarely use it then you are not going to make a good moderator. Like Maeve, I don't want to be a moderator. Too often I have had posts deleted, posts changed, my profile name changed, my post count deleted (i don't care about post counts but I do care when it is changed by someone with moderator controls) If you think it is purely for information purposes then why not lock the creation of posts and threads to everyone but committee members and route submissions through the committee, otherwise it will be a discussion board and it should be run like one without posts deleting without any warning!!
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Post by Keith on Nov 14, 2007 17:12:01 GMT
I whole heartedly apologize for my above posts and anyone I may have attacked or insulted in the process.
I have learned that stressed at work is not a good time to go posting on a message board.
Just one thing though, the option to delete a thread you started is set in the board so there's nothing can be done about that. Almost all threads deleted are by the creator. So that is regardless of the position of the member. As for posts disappearing I'm not entirely sure who can do it in which places. It could have been done as a joke, or in spite. But hopefully we've seen the end of it now.
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Post by rob on Nov 14, 2007 17:22:44 GMT
bla bla bla..... does anybody relly give a shit about all this moderator/ administrator crap.... i know i really couldn't be arsed reading through all those shitty long winded posts..... last time i checked it was the outdoor pursuits club, not the bitch and moan club...
now, sport climbing in january, i like the sound of that!!
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Post by fRuth on Nov 14, 2007 17:59:16 GMT
Rockclimbing in sunny south spain!!!!! YAY!
This trip should do the club a lot of good, get us out in the sunshine and take out some stress on the rocks (sorry that sentence sounds funny but if you get my sense). It will make us happier people. Thanks to Aine, Keith, Mac and Brick, our sub committee.
I hate the way people are quick to criticise something they find wrong, but are slow to give praise or support to one's efforts.
I know bitching can be a leisure activity for the playground, but it's not cool and it solves nothing in the long run.
A quote which I find quite apt:
"TO FIND A FAULT IS EASY; TO DO BETTER MAY BE DIFFICULT"
Why not take heed of that little gem of wisdom!!!!!!
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Post by Darragh on Nov 14, 2007 18:27:59 GMT
fe*cing hell reading this form san salvador where people find it hard to just survive and that goes for myself and woodsy...lads ive been around since the start of the message board and to be honest its the same person causing trouble all the time.
Mike im not afraid to say this but do you ever get tired of posting crap and stirring your 26 grow up for He who shall not be named sake!!!!!!
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Post by yellowwellies on Nov 14, 2007 19:40:31 GMT
geze mike how much free time do you have...have you nothing better to do with your life other than spend your days writting shit about a club you aren't even active in???
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